The Kiss of Death

A little over a week ago — April 25, to be precise — I was checking my stats, out of idle curiosity mostly, when I noticed a spike in connections. I looked at the referring links, and they were from The Local East Village, a supplementary blog of the New York Times. I had to see what was leading them to me, so I clicked on the link.


Plods? I suppose that’s accurate. The responses I’ve been getting from N7E have been laborious!

It’s not the first time The Local mentioned Quilas. Earlier in the month they linked to No 7-Eleven on Avenue A in their daily wrap-up, called The Day:


But this time, the link garnered more connections. I was waiting for them to tweet the story so I could re-tweet it, since they always tweeted every story of theirs, but it never came. They must not have wanted to promote it. Who can say? I was too busy at work to write my own tweet, so I just let it go.

And then it happened, and on May Day, no less:


The Local is no more! They linked to Quilas, and they bit the dust.

They’re keeping the site on-line, though, at least for now. After all, N7E is still posting to their Comments section!


While writing this piece, I checked The Local‘s twitter page, to see if they ever did tweet the link to “…Plods On”. Here is what I found:


Their twitter page is gone! Vanished! As if it had never existed. So, unlike the blog itself, if you want a reference to past The Local tweets, for whatever historical research you might be conducting, it’s not there. Not on Twitter, anyway. You might be able to get it from the NSA, if you file a FOIA request, but I suspect any reference to Quilas will be redacted!

10 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. John
    May 05, 2013 @ 18:12:23

    What’s with your fixation on the No 7-Eleven group? It was mildly amusing at first but now you’re using any old excuse to blog negative things about them. It seems a bit obsessive. Please explain.


    • shmnyc
      May 05, 2013 @ 18:46:20

      “The Kiss of Death” was not about N7E. It was about The Local blog mentioning Quilas as part of a post about 7-Eleven, and then expiring.

      As far as my writing about them, I don’t agree that it’s obsessive. Take a look at the number of posts about them in other blogs: EV Grieve, The Lo-Down, The Villager, Bowery Boogie, The Local… each of them (except The Local) uncritically reporting on every movement they make and repeating every word they utter. Has any one of them looked into the claims being made? If they have, I haven’t seen it.

      As far as your being amused, check this out. And possibly even funnier!


  2. John
    May 05, 2013 @ 20:44:50

    The blogs you mention are neighborhood related so their reporting on 7-Eleven matters makes sense. Your blog is a personal blog so your obsession seems peculiar.


  3. joe
    May 05, 2013 @ 22:17:01

    Too funny!


  4. banana
    May 05, 2013 @ 22:39:30

    Quilas’ consideration of whether 7/11 removal in particular is a good idea is about as obsessive, if not less obsessive, than N7E’S dogmatic arguments that we should remove 7/11 in particular.

    N7E started the “obsessing about 7/11” thing, but for some reason when some heat is put on they suddenly want to talk about something else (otherwise you must be a 7/11 shill, right). Live by the OCD local retail planning nerdery, die by the OCD local retail planning nerdery.


    • John
      May 05, 2013 @ 22:52:17

      When has that group ever said anything about removing 7-11? They are pushing for zoning amendments to ensure some type of balance between local businesses and chains.


  5. banana
    May 06, 2013 @ 19:02:02

    Fine. Preventing 7-11 from moving in. Big difference there in amount of obsessiveness.

    ” some type of balance between local businesses and chains” – not chains, plural, chain singular. They are specifically targeting 7/11. Don’t give some fig leaf argument that they are an umbrella, flexible group that will later expand their interest to other chains. Right now more or less 95% of their interest is on 7-11. It’s in their name.

    There are probably dozens of chains that are planning to move in in the next few years or have recently moved in in the last decade. There’s something weird about targeting 7/11 in particular. It is not a “first step” because they’ve spent so much time on it. It is not a “symbol” because there is no reason to zone out one business as a symbol while effectively ignoring the other chains as they move in.

    You need to admit that there is something bizarre about N7E specifically targeting 7/11.

    It’s obsessive and arbitrary as anything, if that was what you cared about you’d be criticizng N7E for it. Instead you use it here, trying to discredit the author as a distraction because it is easier than actually addressing the author’s points.


  6. banana
    May 06, 2013 @ 19:18:13

    And even if the ordinances they’re lobbying for would ban other chains from moving in as well, your point is still invalid.

    Quilas discussion of N7E’s goals is exactly as expansive in scope as N7E’s goals in the first place. Your premise seems to be that one’s attention to these issues is prurient, pathological, or deceptive except if they agree with your position on it (At which point that amount of specificity is supposedly a sign of civic-mindedness)..


  7. rob
    May 23, 2013 @ 06:49:10

    No711’s zoning proposal does not restrict 7-Eleven or chain stores any more than welcome them. It simply requires that all chain stores, including banks, go to the local community board for approval before opening. No711 explicitly recognizes in its literature that chain stores sometimes serve a useful purpose. The goal is a measure of community self-determination in the face of giant corporate pressure.

    The reason for the name “No 7-Eleven” is partly historical, partly rhetorical and partly immediate. Historically, the group began with a Loisaida block association choosing unanimously to try to prevent a 7-Eleven in Loisaida, historically a neighborhood with little chain store presence. Rather than proceed as a mere NIMBY group, they chose to expand into a larger issue of chain stores generally in NYC. The group could have opted for a more accurate name like its subtitle “Resist chains and corporate control,” but the name “No 7-Eleven” rhetorically appeals to New Yorkers who respond negatively to 7-Eleven stores. The name also repsonds to 7-Eleven’s aggressive campaign — 100 new stores in two years — which is an immediate threat. So, historical, rhetorical and immediate. Names are often a tough call. This was not an ideal choice — there may not be an ideal. Many New Yorkers respond to it, but then they require an explanation of the full and accurate program.


    • shmnyc
      May 24, 2013 @ 10:56:00


      Now that you’ve discovered that you were never banned from Quilas, don’t feel compelled to go back and respond to everything you neglected previously.


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